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<v ->Welcome to today's webinar, Your Third Act:</v>

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Finding Passion and New Purpose in Retirement.

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I'm your host, Janet Barker-Evans,

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and thanks to everyone calling in today.

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I see we have folks from coast to coast

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all over the country joining us.

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And today we have a panel discussion

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with a few seniors who have become

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social media influencers after retirement.

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Now they're gonna discuss how and why

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a hobby became a side hustle

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and how it's enhanced their later years.

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But before I introduce you to our panelists,

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Ready to go?

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Okay.

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What an incredible panel of guests we have today.

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First, we have Charlotte Simpson.

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Charlotte is also known as the Traveling Black Widow.

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She's a retired guidance counselor

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and special education teacher

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who now travels the world solo

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and shares her inspiring adventures.

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Welcome, Charlotte.

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Sandra Sallin was a former TV commercial actress

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who started a blog at age 70

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and a YouTube account just last year.

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She's an award-winning blogger

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who says she has too many lipsticks, if that's possible,

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and has a bright and fun voice to share with her community.

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And finally, Lisa Lin shares cooking videos on Instagram

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that feature her passionate and opinionated motherland,

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better known as Mama Lin.

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Their multi-generational energy and presence on camera

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is fun and inspiring.

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Let's meet these amazing influencers.

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Hello, ladies.

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<v ->Hi.</v>

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<v Janet>Hey, Charlotte, let's start with you.</v>

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I wanna hear what you tell others

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about why you adventure all over the world.

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<v ->I guess because I just was born</v>

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with an excess of wanderlust and curiosity

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and I just feel best

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when I am either planning for a trip or on a trip

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and it's just insatiable.

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I just, I love travel.

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I always have.

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My grandmother tells me when I was like two years old,

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if someone was leaving the house

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and I saw them with their coat on,

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I'd say like, can I go too?

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So I've just always liked to be on the go.

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<v ->Wow, that's great.</v>

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Let's talk to Sandy next.

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Sandy, you certainly started a new gig later in life.

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Tell us what keeps you coming back

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to the community that has surrounded you.

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<v ->Well, that's it exactly.</v>

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I've found that there are these people

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who really appreciate and want to,

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they get energy from me

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and they've come out of retirement

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just because they see that at 82,

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I'm still going, I'm still climbing hills

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and my energy, I've still got all this energy

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and they realize that they don't have to retire at 65.

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They can still keep going at 82, which I do.

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But I've got wonderful people

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and I feel like I'm able to give energy to them

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and they come to me and I want to help them.

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<v Janet>That's marvelous.</v>

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Yeah, see, redefine what retirement means.

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<v ->I don't know what retirement means.</v>

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<v ->You're not retiring.</v>
<v ->Yeah.</v>

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I still have, what is it?

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I still have hills to climb.

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I'm curious.

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I want to know how things work.

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That's how all of this started.

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That's great.

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Lisa, how about you?

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You have a special connection

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to showing your family story, cooking with your mom.

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What is special about your collaboration with your mom

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and why is it so fun to be on camera together?

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<v ->I definitely think that intergenerational connection</v>

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is probably what makes the content I create

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with my mom and I special,

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especially for people who are like me

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who come from a family of immigrants.

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We sort of are connected with our heritage and our culture

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but oftentimes there are a lot of things

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that our parents do,

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because we also have an American upbringing.

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So there are things that our parents do

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that are not quite American.

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We're trying to figure out, learn about our history.

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And a lot of my followers are like me

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who are American born or Canadian born Chinese

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or British born Chinese.

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even though we grew up in a country

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that is different from our parents.

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intergenerational connection is what make us special.

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<v ->That's great.</v>

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And it's so fun to watch.

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Okay, this is where we're gonna get interactive together.

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So ladies, I would love to hear from each of you,

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how you got started, what kicked off

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and what started you being an influencer.

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What led you here?

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Was it a passion, a mistake?

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Were you always interested in this?

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Like, what was the genesis of your journey?

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Why don't we start with Charlotte?

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<v ->I basically knew nothing about social media.</v>

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I traveled a lot.

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When I'd get back home from a trip,

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I would have like hundreds of pictures to show my daughter.

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And so my daughter said,

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I'm gonna start you an Instagram account

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and there'll be people who enjoy looking at travel pictures

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and they will like you.

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And so she came up with the idea of Traveling Black Widow.

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She taught me how to use Instagram.

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And I put my first few pictures on

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when I was featured on Travel Noir

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and all these people started following me

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and it just sort of took off from there.

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<v Janet>Wow.</v>

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How a lot of influencers start.

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You're discovered and people love

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the content you're putting out.

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<v ->Thankfully.</v>

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And I enjoy the interaction.

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I enjoy so much.

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I mean, I feel like it really keeps me young

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because some of the views, the slang,

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just the whole point of view of the Gen Z

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I feel so in touch with it

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because so many of my followers are so much younger.

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Hey, Sandy, how about you?

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What led you out there?

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What got you to become an influencer?

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<v ->Well, it was a hike to,</v>

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I think it was 13,000 feet up in the Sawtooth Mountains

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you know, there's this thing called a Macintosh.

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It's a computer.

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And I think you can use it for your artwork, for writing.

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I consider a computer a magic machine.

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So it started with that.

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So that was like 1985, shows you how old I am.

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And then I heard about the internet.

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And then I, so I was so curious.

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I just kept on learning more and more.

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And it was my son, no, you know what happened?

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My friends were having knees replaced.

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We're having all sorts of medical issues.

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Well, I have them also.

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But what happened was I wanted to expand my world.

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And I realized that the place for expansion,

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I read people's blogs and I thought,

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that's what I'm going to do.

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And it has expanded my world.

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I now have, last week I had a friend visiting from,

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who I never met, but she was a beauty blogger from London.

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And so a friend said come and see Sandy in L.A.

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Charlotte, come and see me in L.A.

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If you ever come to L.A.

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I got also Lisa.

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And then I had a social media manager come from,

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what was it?

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New Hampshire.

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So suddenly my world,

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and I've got buddies up in San Francisco.

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I've got buddies really in Scotland, in Ireland,

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all over the world where I figure, and Hawaii.

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I figure I can go almost anywhere now

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and have buddies all over.

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It's fabulous.

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<v ->That's great.</v>

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That's great.

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Yeah, like the internet lets us do that.

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Much smaller world, much smaller world.

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Lisa, how about you?

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What was the impetus for you doing this?

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Like what kicked this off for you?

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I had recently graduated from law school and passed the bar.

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I didn't actually want to be a lawyer.

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So then I decided I had always cooked

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or I'd cooked for many years.

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And I just decided to start a food blog

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because I had followed a lot of food blogs

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when I was in law school.

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that I was really passionate about cooking

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and sharing my recipes online.

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And so I have not looked back since then.

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I started filming content with my mom.

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So the reason why I started filming my mom

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was because there's all these family recipes

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that need to be passed on to me and my siblings.

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And so I just wanted to document them.

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And I would occasionally text,

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because my mom says a lot of funny things

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because she's very, very,

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very much a traditional Chinese mother.

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And I would text my friends

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and they would laugh at what my mom would say.

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And I just sort of wondered if my audience

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would like that kind of content too.

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And so I decided to film my mom making her peanut candy

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and people loved it.

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And then I realized that other people

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want to see my mom cook and share her recipes.

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So it just started from there.

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And here I am now.

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<v ->That's great.</v>

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I love that all of your stories are so joyful.

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There's so much joy in what you all talk about

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and what kind of led you there.

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So for the next question,

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I'd love to ask what challenges have you had to overcome?

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Because it can't be easy.

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It can't have been easy to start this.

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There had to be some challenges

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and things you had to face or overcome along the way.

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Charlotte, do you want to kick us off with that?

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<v ->You mean challenges in traveling solo or challenges?</v>

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For you, challenges in traveling solo

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and challenges for putting it out into the world.

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What kinds of things did you have to overcome

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<v ->One of the challenges I continue to grapple</v>

266
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with constantly is just technology.

267
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And on Instagram, there's always something new.

268
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I was doing just fine posting pictures

269
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and then they came up with Reels,

270
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which meant really learning how to make a movie.

271
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And that, it just really involved a lot.

272
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But it was so good for me because I went on YouTube

273
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and I would watch how-to movies or YouTubes.

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And I knew if I was going to stay on Instagram,

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I had to make Reels.

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And so I just, I rose to the challenge.

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I learned how.

278
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Now there's even more new things.

279
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You know, there's the stories.

280
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You have to keep the stories up.

281
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There's just always something that you have to learn

282
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in order to stay with it in social media.

283
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<v ->That's so true.</v>

284
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They're always throwing something new at us

285
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or changing it a little bit

286
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just so we have to learn more.

287
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Yeah, that's great.

288
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How about you, Sandy?

289
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What kind of challenges have you had to overcome?

290
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<v ->Well, first of all, Charlotte,</v>

291
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it makes me feel so much better

292
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that you feel the same way I do.

293
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There is always something new.

294
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You know, it makes me crazy.

295
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And as you say, when you make a Reel,

296
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it's like a whole movie.

297
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And then you've got to find that

298
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I'm just right with Charlotte.

299
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It does keep you young because there's always something new

300
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and you're always, and I'm terrified.

301
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Have I done this?

302
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Have I lost that?

303
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I'd say it's, I remember the first time I did a live.

304
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And I had no idea if I was live or not.

305
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But you have to have guts.

306
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You have to have persistence and curiosity.

307
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And I find myself watching lots of YouTube videos

308
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to figure out what in the world, how do I do it?

309
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And the problem is, is that,

310
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well, you've got your daughter helping you.

311
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My son is up in Portland and I find,

312
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how do I do this?

313
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How do I do that?

314
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But then again, I just have guts and I do it anyway.

315
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And if I make a mistake, everybody understands.

316
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It's a little old lady trying to figure out

317
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how to do these things.

318
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You've got to forgive me.

319
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<v ->I do think people are forgiving.</v>

320
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It's like, we love the content.

321
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We understand life happens.

322
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Things are going to happen and go wrong.

323
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So that's good.

324
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<v ->But it's fun.</v>

325
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And I think it's good for people to see mistakes

326
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and to see reality and know that we're not that cool,

327
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that we're not that perfect, that stuff happens.

328
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<v ->And that's a really good point.</v>

329
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You know, if you've ever seen the fails,

330
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fail videos or fail photos,

331
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I try to do good things and you're like,

332
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this does not look how the photo looks.

333
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So you're right.

334
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That's the human side of trying things.

335
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You're going to fail sometimes.

336
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Right.

337
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Yeah.

338
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Lisa, how about you?

339
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What challenges did you have to overcome

340
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as you got started?

341
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<v ->Well, first of all,</v>

342
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I echo everything that Charlotte and Sandra have said.

343
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I think specifically relating to my mom,

344
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she feels a little bit of imposter syndrome sometimes

345
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when I share her recipes online,

346
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because she thinks that she's not a trained chef.

347
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So she feels that her knowledge is not as good

348
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or as worthy of sharing.

349
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And I have to remind her

350
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that she's had decades of experience with cooking.

351
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So yes, she is experienced,

352
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even though she wasn't formally trained as a chef

353
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or she never opened a restaurant,

354
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she's just as capable of cooking as professional cooks.

355
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And so I had to tell her to just be confident.

356
00:14:37.890 --> 00:14:41.190
And my mom, she feels like she needs to be perfect

357
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every time.

358
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And it's really what Sandra's saying.

359
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It's okay to show mistakes

360
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because it sort of tells people that we're human,

361
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that not everything turns out right all the time.

362
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And so I have to remind my mom that it's okay

363
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if things aren't perfect.

364
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It's a learning experience for all of us.

365
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And my mom's kitchen is very authentically

366
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sort of Chinese parent kitchen

367
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where there's foil all around the stove.

368
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And she's always paranoid that it doesn't look good.

369
00:15:08.550 --> 00:15:09.420
And I go, no, mom,

370
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that's exactly what people are wanting to see.

371
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They want to see that kind of authenticity.

372
00:15:13.770 --> 00:15:16.890
So I have to just remind her about that all the time.

373
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<v ->Yeah, especially with cooking.</v>

374
00:15:18.630 --> 00:15:20.610
I hate when you see everyone's perfect kitchen.

375
00:15:20.610 --> 00:15:22.773
I look around my house and I'm like, man.

376
00:15:23.810 --> 00:15:24.960
Great, yeah.

377
00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:27.210
I think that that authenticity is so important.

378
00:15:27.210 --> 00:15:30.120
And being who you are and look, mistakes,

379
00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:31.620
failures, that's part of life.

380
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That's part of life.

381
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<v ->Exactly.</v>

382
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<v ->Okay.</v>

383
00:15:35.150 --> 00:15:37.380
Some of this stuff has to be humorous.

384
00:15:37.380 --> 00:15:40.620
Are there any funny moments or unexpected things

385
00:15:40.620 --> 00:15:42.750
that have happened along the way?

386
00:15:42.750 --> 00:15:44.500
Charlotte, you want to kick us off?

387
00:15:45.610 --> 00:15:48.120
<v ->You know, I think about that</v>

388
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because I get asked rather often

389
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and I feel like, gosh,

390
00:15:52.770 --> 00:15:56.790
I must really be sort of a dull traveler to other people

391
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because it things seem to flow fairly smoothly.

392
00:16:01.390 --> 00:16:05.790
And I haven't had something just really outstanding

393
00:16:05.790 --> 00:16:08.670
that's like, oh my gosh, that was so hilarious.

394
00:16:08.670 --> 00:16:11.430
And because it's almost like anything that's hilarious

395
00:16:11.430 --> 00:16:14.910
was also almost sort of traumatizing or something.

396
00:16:14.910 --> 00:16:18.530
And later on, if you look at it as having been hilarious.

397
00:16:18.530 --> 00:16:21.850
So, so far, so good.

398
00:16:21.850 --> 00:16:24.030
<v ->Well, that's good.</v>

399
00:16:24.030 --> 00:16:26.070
Traveling solo, I would expect

400
00:16:26.070 --> 00:16:27.930
that there's tons of crazy stuff that happens,

401
00:16:27.930 --> 00:16:28.980
but that's good.

402
00:16:28.980 --> 00:16:30.450
Maybe it's because you're by yourself

403
00:16:30.450 --> 00:16:32.340
and you don't have everybody else you have to worry about.

404
00:16:32.340 --> 00:16:34.560
Maybe that makes it easier.

405
00:16:34.560 --> 00:16:36.990
<v ->And since I do travel solo,</v>

406
00:16:36.990 --> 00:16:40.550
I really have back early on tried to think of

407
00:16:40.550 --> 00:16:42.710
all the worst case scenarios,

408
00:16:42.710 --> 00:16:46.140
just any possible thing that I was fearful of

409
00:16:46.140 --> 00:16:47.410
or that could go wrong.

410
00:16:47.410 --> 00:16:52.410
And so I really tried to plan for that

411
00:16:52.890 --> 00:16:55.410
and overcome that even before it ever happened.

412
00:16:55.410 --> 00:16:58.410
So at this point, there's not too much

413
00:16:58.410 --> 00:16:59.460
that's going to come up,

414
00:16:59.460 --> 00:17:02.670
that's going to cause a bit of a problem for me

415
00:17:02.670 --> 00:17:04.740
because I've just sort of thought through it all

416
00:17:04.740 --> 00:17:07.200
and even continue to just think through

417
00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:11.040
what's the worst case scenario and let me be ready for it.

418
00:17:11.040 --> 00:17:12.990
<v ->Yeah, so you're tested and ready.</v>

419
00:17:12.990 --> 00:17:15.420
You've already thought about it ahead of time.

420
00:17:15.420 --> 00:17:16.263
That's great.

421
00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:18.720
That's great.

422
00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:19.650
Hey, Sandy how about you?

423
00:17:19.650 --> 00:17:22.560
Anything that's particularly funny or surprising

424
00:17:22.560 --> 00:17:24.750
that's happened along the way for you?

425
00:17:24.750 --> 00:17:27.210
<v ->We're starting a blooper reel.</v>

426
00:17:27.210 --> 00:17:32.210
It was just, I mean, I could go through

427
00:17:32.370 --> 00:17:35.370
and tell people all the things about,

428
00:17:35.370 --> 00:17:37.680
I talk about beauty and then I also give,

429
00:17:37.680 --> 00:17:40.590
I have like my favorites of the month.

430
00:17:40.590 --> 00:17:44.223
Well, last month, I was talking about this favorite book,

431
00:17:46.010 --> 00:17:49.410
"The Thirteenth Tale" by Diana Sedgwick.

432
00:17:49.410 --> 00:17:53.460
I couldn't remember the name and I even wrote it down

433
00:17:53.460 --> 00:17:56.310
and I just looked at it and I couldn't remember the name

434
00:17:56.310 --> 00:17:58.770
and I'm going on and on and on

435
00:17:58.770 --> 00:18:01.248
and I'm like, it's "The Fifteenth Tale,"

436
00:18:01.248 --> 00:18:02.700
it's "The Thirteenth Tale,"

437
00:18:02.700 --> 00:18:05.460
it's Diana Sedgwick, it's Diana Sedgwick.

438
00:18:05.460 --> 00:18:08.340
So sometimes I just can't even remember anything.

439
00:18:08.340 --> 00:18:12.810
And so we put a thing down at the bottom

440
00:18:12.810 --> 00:18:17.630
but I do so many mistakes that we're starting a blooper reel

441
00:18:17.630 --> 00:18:19.690
and that should be really good.

442
00:18:19.690 --> 00:18:21.960
<v ->I love blooper reel.</v>

443
00:18:21.960 --> 00:18:24.690
It's the way I like, I love fail videos and blooper reels

444
00:18:24.690 --> 00:18:26.763
because it reminds me I'm not alone.

445
00:18:27.750 --> 00:18:30.230
It's like you look at it and you're like, mm-hmm.

446
00:18:30.230 --> 00:18:33.530
<v ->And I was telling people to read, you know "Rebecca"</v>

447
00:18:33.530 --> 00:18:36.660
and who wrote "Rebecca?"

448
00:18:36.660 --> 00:18:37.860
Can you remember?

449
00:18:37.860 --> 00:18:40.140
Well, it's Daphne, but well, anyway,

450
00:18:40.140 --> 00:18:42.090
how can I forget these things?

451
00:18:42.090 --> 00:18:47.090
So I fumble and I futz and we put it on

452
00:18:47.280 --> 00:18:49.140
on my videos.

453
00:18:49.140 --> 00:18:49.973
<v ->That's great.</v>

454
00:18:49.973 --> 00:18:51.750
I'll have to go watch that later.

455
00:18:51.750 --> 00:18:52.680
That's awesome.

456
00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:53.820
Lisa, how about you?

457
00:18:53.820 --> 00:18:54.930
Anything really funny?

458
00:18:54.930 --> 00:18:57.360
There has to be, by the way, there has to be funny stuff.

459
00:18:57.360 --> 00:18:58.620
There has to be with your mom.

460
00:18:58.620 --> 00:19:01.410
<v ->Yeah, the things that stick to my mind are,</v>

461
00:19:01.410 --> 00:19:03.970
so my mom doesn't speak English,

462
00:19:03.970 --> 00:19:06.540
but then she knows some words,

463
00:19:06.540 --> 00:19:10.710
which she sometimes just busts them out in the videos,

464
00:19:10.710 --> 00:19:12.660
which is surprising to me.

465
00:19:12.660 --> 00:19:14.760
So sometimes she'll say things like,

466
00:19:14.760 --> 00:19:16.110
oh, something is organic.

467
00:19:16.110 --> 00:19:19.020
And I go, mom, where did you learn the word organic from?

468
00:19:19.020 --> 00:19:19.860
Because she doesn't even know

469
00:19:19.860 --> 00:19:21.870
how to pronounce my husband's name, which is Chris.

470
00:19:21.870 --> 00:19:24.600
But for the, and we've been married

471
00:19:24.600 --> 00:19:26.570
for almost 10 years now.

472
00:19:26.570 --> 00:19:28.080
And we've been together for more than that.

473
00:19:28.080 --> 00:19:30.000
So she can't even remember his name,

474
00:19:30.000 --> 00:19:32.940
but she can remember, she can say things like organic,

475
00:19:32.940 --> 00:19:36.150
Trader Joe's, there's a grocery store

476
00:19:36.150 --> 00:19:37.680
in San Francisco called Rainbow.

477
00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:41.280
And she will just randomly say these English words.

478
00:19:41.280 --> 00:19:43.530
And I just go, where did you learn all this stuff?

479
00:19:43.530 --> 00:19:44.970
But you can't pronounce my husband's name.

480
00:19:44.970 --> 00:19:47.880
So to me, my mom always surprises me like that.

481
00:19:47.880 --> 00:19:51.180
So those are the moments that I laugh the hardest.

482
00:19:51.180 --> 00:19:52.050
<v Janet>That's funny.</v>

483
00:19:52.050 --> 00:19:53.250
Oh, that's awesome.

484
00:19:53.250 --> 00:19:55.590
That's great.

485
00:19:55.590 --> 00:19:58.210
How about this next question?

486
00:19:58.210 --> 00:20:03.210
Let's talk about how doing this has made you feel fulfilled

487
00:20:03.540 --> 00:20:04.710
in this phase of your life.

488
00:20:04.710 --> 00:20:07.950
So Charlotte, how does this help make you feel

489
00:20:07.950 --> 00:20:10.200
more fulfilled, make you feel like you have

490
00:20:10.200 --> 00:20:13.380
a more enjoyable life through doing this?

491
00:20:13.380 --> 00:20:18.270
<v ->Oh, being on social media is so, so gratifying.</v>

492
00:20:18.270 --> 00:20:21.830
And especially for me as a traveler,

493
00:20:21.830 --> 00:20:24.540
because I enjoy it, I've grown so much

494
00:20:24.540 --> 00:20:27.240
in my solo traveling in particular,

495
00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:31.710
but having, I have a lot of, I have very good engagement

496
00:20:31.710 --> 00:20:35.220
and just a lot of interaction with my followers.

497
00:20:35.220 --> 00:20:39.420
And when I hear from someone who even will DM me

498
00:20:39.420 --> 00:20:42.360
and send a picture, and they have just received

499
00:20:42.360 --> 00:20:46.230
their passport, they got the nerve to actually think

500
00:20:46.230 --> 00:20:49.250
about going out of the country they've never been,

501
00:20:49.250 --> 00:20:51.480
that is just so heartwarming.

502
00:20:51.480 --> 00:20:53.730
I have people who've never flown,

503
00:20:53.730 --> 00:20:57.930
and they will email me or write me and tell me,

504
00:20:57.930 --> 00:21:01.710
I actually have got my first plane ride planned,

505
00:21:01.710 --> 00:21:02.897
I'm gonna do it, I've seen you,

506
00:21:02.897 --> 00:21:04.950
I know if you could do all these things.

507
00:21:04.950 --> 00:21:07.740
And sometimes it'll be like, my husband's still alive

508
00:21:07.740 --> 00:21:11.280
and I'm afraid to fly and you've done this by yourself.

509
00:21:11.280 --> 00:21:15.450
And that, and just people going to Europe

510
00:21:15.450 --> 00:21:17.790
for the first time, going out of the country,

511
00:21:17.790 --> 00:21:22.110
taking a solo trip, I've had so many women write to me

512
00:21:22.110 --> 00:21:26.760
and tell me that they've been able to move through

513
00:21:26.760 --> 00:21:31.023
their whole widow grieving period and plan for travel.

514
00:21:31.860 --> 00:21:35.170
And it's just so gratifying.

515
00:21:35.170 --> 00:21:38.930
<v ->Yeah that's the beauty of being an influencer</v>

516
00:21:38.930 --> 00:21:42.330
is that positive influence that you have on so many people

517
00:21:42.330 --> 00:21:44.340
that you probably don't even realize.

518
00:21:44.340 --> 00:21:47.040
And those are just the people who've reached out to you.

519
00:21:47.040 --> 00:21:49.590
Think about all the people that you all have touched

520
00:21:49.590 --> 00:21:52.320
and influenced who maybe haven't.

521
00:21:52.320 --> 00:21:54.090
And that's the marvelous part is it's like,

522
00:21:54.090 --> 00:21:56.370
boy, you've brought that kind of ray of light

523
00:21:56.370 --> 00:21:58.230
into all these people's lives.

524
00:21:58.230 --> 00:21:59.430
That's marvelous.

525
00:21:59.430 --> 00:22:00.330
<v ->Yeah, I love it.</v>

526
00:22:01.230 --> 00:22:02.430
<v ->Sandy how about you?</v>

527
00:22:02.430 --> 00:22:05.160
How does this help you feel fulfilled?

528
00:22:05.160 --> 00:22:09.630
<v ->Well, I love listening to Charlotte because I had,</v>

529
00:22:09.630 --> 00:22:14.130
you know, I don't have contact with other,

530
00:22:14.130 --> 00:22:16.610
shall we say mature influencers,

531
00:22:16.610 --> 00:22:20.550
but I know that how gratifying I feel

532
00:22:20.550 --> 00:22:24.270
that people write to me and say, I was going to retire,

533
00:22:24.270 --> 00:22:25.430
but then I saw you.

534
00:22:25.430 --> 00:22:27.810
And so I'm not going to retire.

535
00:22:27.810 --> 00:22:29.610
I'm going back into business.

536
00:22:29.610 --> 00:22:31.200
I'm going to start wearing makeup.

537
00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:33.590
I'd stopped wearing makeup.

538
00:22:33.590 --> 00:22:37.140
The way Charlotte's talking about people

539
00:22:37.140 --> 00:22:39.780
who are now, I was touched by having a photograph

540
00:22:39.780 --> 00:22:42.090
of a passport.

541
00:22:42.090 --> 00:22:43.020
It's the same thing.

542
00:22:43.020 --> 00:22:47.130
This is a passport into life to see we've got older people,

543
00:22:47.130 --> 00:22:50.340
older women, older anybody who is still,

544
00:22:50.340 --> 00:22:52.950
who's living, who are not just living,

545
00:22:52.950 --> 00:22:54.750
but who are vital, who are curious,

546
00:22:54.750 --> 00:22:57.240
who can't figure out how to do a Reel,

547
00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:00.570
but somehow they watch it and learn how to do a Reel.

548
00:23:00.570 --> 00:23:04.260
And so this shows other people that they can do it also.

549
00:23:04.260 --> 00:23:07.410
And when they write to me how they're ill,

550
00:23:07.410 --> 00:23:11.940
but I can make them happy, how they're depressed,

551
00:23:11.940 --> 00:23:15.810
but they wait for me to make them happy.

552
00:23:15.810 --> 00:23:19.110
And you don't, I didn't realize this,

553
00:23:19.110 --> 00:23:21.210
but this was what my son was saying.

554
00:23:21.210 --> 00:23:22.560
You've got to do it, mother.

555
00:23:22.560 --> 00:23:23.670
You've got to help.

556
00:23:23.670 --> 00:23:27.497
In a way, it's helping people and giving them the letter,

557
00:23:27.497 --> 00:23:30.420
not the letter, the messages I get back

558
00:23:30.420 --> 00:23:33.060
are just so meaningful.

559
00:23:33.060 --> 00:23:36.240
And that as much work as it takes to make the videos,

560
00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:39.090
I know that there are people who wait for them,

561
00:23:39.090 --> 00:23:41.730
who rely on them, and that I can help.

562
00:23:41.730 --> 00:23:44.450
And I talk about things that nobody wants to talk about

563
00:23:44.450 --> 00:23:48.540
also, and I do it anyway.

564
00:23:48.540 --> 00:23:53.540
But it's because it isn't all easy being older.

565
00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:56.753
They're tough things.

566
00:23:56.753 --> 00:23:59.190
So I try and help people.

567
00:23:59.190 --> 00:24:01.020
Even if it's painful.

568
00:24:01.020 --> 00:24:03.240
<v ->Yeah, I know, I love the lipstick comment.</v>

569
00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:05.170
You can't have too many lipsticks.

570
00:24:05.170 --> 00:24:06.660
<v ->I do, I do.</v>

571
00:24:06.660 --> 00:24:09.060
<v ->We reapplied before the webinar today.</v>

572
00:24:09.060 --> 00:24:10.620
We were both reapplying our lipstick,

573
00:24:10.620 --> 00:24:12.830
making sure we, right, have it handy.

574
00:24:12.830 --> 00:24:15.690
<v ->A lipstick can change your life.</v>

575
00:24:15.690 --> 00:24:18.150
I knew that this color rose was just,

576
00:24:18.150 --> 00:24:20.490
it was waiting for me and I needed it.

577
00:24:20.490 --> 00:24:23.130
And I've got four others in the same,

578
00:24:23.130 --> 00:24:25.750
I'm embarrassed just talking about it

579
00:24:25.750 --> 00:24:27.420
<v ->I think we all are.</v>

580
00:24:27.420 --> 00:24:29.250
We all love our lipsticks, don't we?

581
00:24:29.250 --> 00:24:30.083
That's great.

582
00:24:30.083 --> 00:24:31.860
<v ->Yes, yes.</v>

583
00:24:31.860 --> 00:24:33.120
<v ->Lisa, how about you?</v>

584
00:24:33.120 --> 00:24:35.400
How has this helped fulfill your life?

585
00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:38.760
And also, how do you think it's helping your mom?

586
00:24:38.760 --> 00:24:39.593
Right, how do you think it's helping

587
00:24:39.593 --> 00:24:41.250
her feel more fulfilled?

588
00:24:41.250 --> 00:24:42.960
<v ->Well, I can start with my mom first.</v>

589
00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:46.710
I think she appreciates the time that we spend together

590
00:24:46.710 --> 00:24:49.170
a lot because we,

591
00:24:49.170 --> 00:24:51.510
so I grew up in San Francisco

592
00:24:51.510 --> 00:24:52.590
and my whole family is still there,

593
00:24:52.590 --> 00:24:55.830
but I've moved about an hour and a half away to Sacramento.

594
00:24:55.830 --> 00:24:58.290
And I am the youngest of four children.

595
00:24:58.290 --> 00:25:00.030
So my mom is worried about me all the time.

596
00:25:00.030 --> 00:25:04.890
And so our time together allows us to bond together,

597
00:25:04.890 --> 00:25:05.940
spend time with each other,

598
00:25:05.940 --> 00:25:09.390
and allows my mom to feel like she's helping me in my career

599
00:25:09.390 --> 00:25:12.540
because she wants to help all her children equally.

600
00:25:12.540 --> 00:25:14.370
And because I'm not physically there,

601
00:25:14.370 --> 00:25:15.750
it's probably harder for her.

602
00:25:15.750 --> 00:25:20.610
So she likes to know that she's helpful.

603
00:25:20.610 --> 00:25:23.820
And by that, she'll prep recipes.

604
00:25:23.820 --> 00:25:25.830
If I want to film with her,

605
00:25:25.830 --> 00:25:28.350
if I drive down to San Francisco for a weekend,

606
00:25:28.350 --> 00:25:30.360
she'll prepare recipes that I can film,

607
00:25:30.360 --> 00:25:34.410
or she's always on social media looking up recipes,

608
00:25:34.410 --> 00:25:36.150
looking for new recipes to learn.

609
00:25:36.150 --> 00:25:38.580
It's funny because I would have thought

610
00:25:38.580 --> 00:25:40.980
that after decades of cooking,

611
00:25:40.980 --> 00:25:43.620
that my mom would just be tired of learning new foods,

612
00:25:43.620 --> 00:25:46.050
but she's actually very, very interested

613
00:25:46.050 --> 00:25:47.280
in learning new recipes.

614
00:25:47.280 --> 00:25:50.130
And so she's always sending me videos

615
00:25:50.130 --> 00:25:52.500
of new recipes for me to try.

616
00:25:52.500 --> 00:25:55.620
And so I think my mom really likes being engaged

617
00:25:55.620 --> 00:25:57.690
in my career in that way.

618
00:25:57.690 --> 00:26:00.750
And for me, what's been very fulfilling is,

619
00:26:00.750 --> 00:26:02.310
and it's sort of similar

620
00:26:02.310 --> 00:26:03.870
to what Charlotte and Sandra have said,

621
00:26:03.870 --> 00:26:06.360
that all the messages I get from my followers

622
00:26:06.360 --> 00:26:09.870
about how my content speaks to them,

623
00:26:09.870 --> 00:26:14.310
and a lot of people who have maybe lost a grandparent

624
00:26:14.310 --> 00:26:16.170
or parents or any elders they grew up with

625
00:26:16.170 --> 00:26:17.370
who cooked for them,

626
00:26:17.370 --> 00:26:20.100
they'll tell me that the dishes I cooked with my mom

627
00:26:20.100 --> 00:26:24.240
remind them of the foods that they grew up with.

628
00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:27.180
And they sort of, our content,

629
00:26:27.180 --> 00:26:30.300
our videos bring up a lot of these fond memories

630
00:26:30.300 --> 00:26:32.970
of family gatherings or

631
00:26:32.970 --> 00:26:35.400
when grandma cooked this dish for me.

632
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:38.070
And so I find those messages very touching

633
00:26:38.070 --> 00:26:40.950
and I usually screenshot them and save them

634
00:26:40.950 --> 00:26:42.870
for when I'm feeling a little bit overwhelmed

635
00:26:42.870 --> 00:26:45.330
with social media, because it is very overwhelming.

636
00:26:45.330 --> 00:26:46.920
I just sort of need to remind myself

637
00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:50.490
that whatever content I create is helpful for people.

638
00:26:50.490 --> 00:26:53.853
And that's what I have been very,

639
00:26:54.810 --> 00:26:58.140
I've found very fulfilling in this career.

640
00:26:58.140 --> 00:26:58.973
<v ->It's amazing.</v>

641
00:26:58.973 --> 00:27:01.140
And I love that your mom is out there

642
00:27:01.140 --> 00:27:02.190
looking up more recipes.

643
00:27:02.190 --> 00:27:04.020
You're right, like that's probably not something

644
00:27:04.020 --> 00:27:06.570
she ever thought she'd be doing out there on social,

645
00:27:06.570 --> 00:27:09.150
looking up new recipes to try new things to learn.

646
00:27:09.150 --> 00:27:10.620
Like that's marvelous.

647
00:27:10.620 --> 00:27:14.430
<v ->Yeah, yeah, she's, I already got five messages</v>

648
00:27:14.430 --> 00:27:15.263
from her this morning.

649
00:27:15.263 --> 00:27:18.120
So every morning she's on social media

650
00:27:18.120 --> 00:27:22.290
and she's forwarding me all this stuff for me to consider.

651
00:27:22.290 --> 00:27:23.790
<v ->That's great.</v>

652
00:27:23.790 --> 00:27:24.750
I love that.

653
00:27:24.750 --> 00:27:25.583
I love that.

654
00:27:25.583 --> 00:27:26.416
That's marvelous.

655
00:27:26.416 --> 00:27:28.440
So you both feel fulfilled by that.

656
00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:31.800
So has there been, let's go back around

657
00:27:31.800 --> 00:27:34.410
and has there been anything that you learned about yourself

658
00:27:34.410 --> 00:27:36.530
or anything that surprised you about yourself

659
00:27:36.530 --> 00:27:38.670
that this has done for you?

660
00:27:38.670 --> 00:27:39.810
So Charlotte let's start with you.

661
00:27:39.810 --> 00:27:41.210
How'd you surprise yourself?

662
00:27:42.420 --> 00:27:47.420
<v ->I guess I surprised myself in doing some things</v>

663
00:27:47.810 --> 00:27:50.460
that I wouldn't have quite had the nerve to do

664
00:27:50.460 --> 00:27:52.920
if I was traveling with my husband.

665
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:57.630
I realized that then I would sort of be in the background

666
00:27:57.630 --> 00:27:59.490
and let him do whatever.

667
00:27:59.490 --> 00:28:02.150
One of the first things was when I went to Morocco,

668
00:28:02.150 --> 00:28:07.150
I was determined to ride a camel in the Sahara.

669
00:28:07.740 --> 00:28:10.980
And I'm really scared of a lot of animals.

670
00:28:10.980 --> 00:28:13.290
I'm especially scared of real tall animals

671
00:28:13.290 --> 00:28:15.540
that I might have to get on.

672
00:28:15.540 --> 00:28:17.750
And I mean, it took me a few months

673
00:28:17.750 --> 00:28:20.880
just in preparation for the trip.

674
00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:24.480
And when I went and it's like, okay, I'm gonna do this.

675
00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:25.650
I did it.

676
00:28:25.650 --> 00:28:28.190
And I was just so proud of myself

677
00:28:28.190 --> 00:28:30.490
because if he had been there,

678
00:28:30.490 --> 00:28:33.330
I would have taken pictures of him riding a camel.

679
00:28:33.330 --> 00:28:35.190
There's no way I would have even bothered.

680
00:28:35.190 --> 00:28:36.870
I wouldn't even considered it.

681
00:28:36.870 --> 00:28:38.580
And there've just been things like that.

682
00:28:38.580 --> 00:28:42.630
I recently was in Arizona and took a hot air balloon ride.

683
00:28:42.630 --> 00:28:44.160
And my daughter was with me

684
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:46.800
and she wouldn't get in the hot air balloon.

685
00:28:46.800 --> 00:28:49.230
And that made me especially proud

686
00:28:49.230 --> 00:28:51.270
because I thought, wow,

687
00:28:51.270 --> 00:28:53.910
I now have the nerve to ride in a hot air balloon

688
00:28:53.910 --> 00:28:56.100
and my own daughter won't do it.

689
00:28:56.100 --> 00:29:00.330
And so I just, I realized, and some of the time,

690
00:29:00.330 --> 00:29:03.570
in Instagram, we say I did it for the Gram.

691
00:29:03.570 --> 00:29:06.030
It's like some of the time you feel sort of pressured

692
00:29:06.030 --> 00:29:08.520
that it's like, I gotta have this entertaining,

693
00:29:08.520 --> 00:29:11.220
these Reels and photos when I go to Morocco.

694
00:29:11.220 --> 00:29:14.400
I can't just sit around drinking tea all the time.

695
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:18.750
And so I knew I was gonna have to do some things.

696
00:29:18.750 --> 00:29:21.150
And that sort of happens in a lot of my travels.

697
00:29:21.150 --> 00:29:22.200
Although I won't do anything

698
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:24.600
that is just blatantly dangerous

699
00:29:24.600 --> 00:29:26.877
and I have backed off on some things once I've gotten there

700
00:29:26.877 --> 00:29:28.440
and even paid money for them.

701
00:29:28.440 --> 00:29:32.390
But I'm just really proud and pleased

702
00:29:32.390 --> 00:29:36.330
that I will take some chances and do some things

703
00:29:36.330 --> 00:29:39.070
that I think are sort of risky for me.

704
00:29:39.070 --> 00:29:40.650
<v ->That's great.</v>

705
00:29:40.650 --> 00:29:42.300
By the way, getting on a camel in Morocco,

706
00:29:42.300 --> 00:29:43.440
I've been there and I didn't do it.

707
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:44.273
So you are brave.

708
00:29:44.273 --> 00:29:45.660
It is risky.

709
00:29:45.660 --> 00:29:46.590
It is risky.

710
00:29:46.590 --> 00:29:47.490
That's marvelous.

711
00:29:47.490 --> 00:29:49.470
I love that it's pushed you to do things

712
00:29:49.470 --> 00:29:51.450
that you might not have otherwise done.

713
00:29:51.450 --> 00:29:52.283
That's great.

714
00:29:52.283 --> 00:29:54.000
So you're growing through this too.

715
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:54.833
That's great.

716
00:29:56.610 --> 00:29:57.443
I love that.

717
00:29:57.443 --> 00:29:58.773
Sandy, how about you?

718
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:04.130
<v ->Well, the first thing was after I made my first video</v>

719
00:30:04.130 --> 00:30:07.470
and it was a short one.

720
00:30:07.470 --> 00:30:09.150
I didn't know what I was doing.

721
00:30:09.150 --> 00:30:11.030
You could even hear the door close in the background

722
00:30:11.030 --> 00:30:13.830
and people wanted more.

723
00:30:13.830 --> 00:30:16.620
And I was shocked they wanted more.

724
00:30:16.620 --> 00:30:19.770
And I made another one and again, they wanted more.

725
00:30:19.770 --> 00:30:22.890
And I mean, I've got to take,

726
00:30:22.890 --> 00:30:24.660
I want to take dancing lessons

727
00:30:24.660 --> 00:30:26.760
because I want to be able to dance

728
00:30:26.760 --> 00:30:28.350
so that it's cool looking.

729
00:30:28.350 --> 00:30:33.090
Because the way I dance now, I look like it isn't good.

730
00:30:33.090 --> 00:30:37.550
But my husband, I mean, I was dancing on the roof

731
00:30:37.550 --> 00:30:40.710
and my daughter called me and said,

732
00:30:40.710 --> 00:30:41.880
is that the roof?

733
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:43.650
What are you doing on the roof?

734
00:30:43.650 --> 00:30:48.190
And so it's opened up a world where I want to do dances.

735
00:30:48.190 --> 00:30:51.210
I think I'm going to do TikToks.

736
00:30:51.210 --> 00:30:53.130
It's just, it's amazing.

737
00:30:53.130 --> 00:30:54.963
And I'm amazed that people like it.

738
00:30:57.510 --> 00:30:58.770
My daughter's so proud.

739
00:30:58.770 --> 00:31:00.653
My son, they talk to all of their friends

740
00:31:00.653 --> 00:31:03.120
who are much, much younger than,

741
00:31:03.120 --> 00:31:04.710
needless to say that I am.

742
00:31:04.710 --> 00:31:07.470
And my daughter tells everybody that I'm an influencer

743
00:31:07.470 --> 00:31:10.950
and everybody's always, doctors, nurses,

744
00:31:10.950 --> 00:31:12.840
anybody on the street.

745
00:31:12.840 --> 00:31:15.420
My son, his friends call him and say,

746
00:31:15.420 --> 00:31:16.680
have you seen your mother?

747
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:19.080
Did you see what she did last week?

748
00:31:19.080 --> 00:31:21.190
And who knew?

749
00:31:21.190 --> 00:31:26.190
It's shocking to me that I'm an influencer.

750
00:31:27.900 --> 00:31:28.920
<v ->That's marvelous.</v>

751
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:31.260
Well, and again, you're pushing yourself to things

752
00:31:31.260 --> 00:31:32.520
that kind of like Charlotte,

753
00:31:32.520 --> 00:31:34.590
it's like things you probably wouldn't have ever thought

754
00:31:34.590 --> 00:31:36.300
you'd be doing.

755
00:31:36.300 --> 00:31:37.590
<v ->Well, I'm a gutsy person.</v>

756
00:31:37.590 --> 00:31:40.860
I mean, I flew in a World War II plane

757
00:31:40.860 --> 00:31:44.550
over the White Cliffs of Dover.

758
00:31:44.550 --> 00:31:46.020
So in a Spitfire,

759
00:31:46.020 --> 00:31:50.190
one of the preeminent planes of World War II.

760
00:31:50.190 --> 00:31:52.200
So I am a gutsy person,

761
00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.010
but I guess I'm getting gutsier.

762
00:31:56.010 --> 00:31:57.510
You know what it is?

763
00:31:57.510 --> 00:32:01.270
I'm doing, I can't believe that people know so much about me

764
00:32:01.270 --> 00:32:04.830
when I'm talking to thousands of people and telling them,

765
00:32:04.830 --> 00:32:05.850
but I don't realize

766
00:32:05.850 --> 00:32:08.760
because I think I'm just talking to one person.

767
00:32:08.760 --> 00:32:11.040
And then somebody will say, yeah, I saw what you did

768
00:32:11.040 --> 00:32:12.330
and I heard what you did.

769
00:32:12.330 --> 00:32:14.370
I say, how did you know?

770
00:32:14.370 --> 00:32:15.870
You don't realize.

771
00:32:15.870 --> 00:32:16.890
<v ->Yeah.</v>

772
00:32:16.890 --> 00:32:18.060
It's like the ripple in the pond.

773
00:32:18.060 --> 00:32:20.490
You have no idea how many people are seeing you

774
00:32:20.490 --> 00:32:21.660
and how many people you're touching

775
00:32:21.660 --> 00:32:23.820
and influencing and inspiring.

776
00:32:23.820 --> 00:32:26.223
<v ->My mother's cheesecake recipe.</v>

777
00:32:29.010 --> 00:32:31.320
So I have this fabulous recipe.

778
00:32:31.320 --> 00:32:35.230
I got an email from the Olympic Aquatic Coach,

779
00:32:41.650 --> 00:32:43.290
in Britain.

780
00:32:43.290 --> 00:32:47.760
And she said she made my mother's cheesecake for the squad

781
00:32:47.760 --> 00:32:49.620
when they were really, really good.

782
00:32:49.620 --> 00:32:54.620
And not only that it's the Olympic gold medal winners daily,

783
00:32:55.670 --> 00:32:57.390
I think it's daily.

784
00:32:57.390 --> 00:32:59.040
It's his favorite dish.

785
00:32:59.040 --> 00:32:59.873
Oh, wow.

786
00:32:59.873 --> 00:33:02.670
She makes it for everybody who donates money.

787
00:33:02.670 --> 00:33:05.100
And this is my mother's cheesecake recipe.

788
00:33:05.100 --> 00:33:07.260
I guess it's like you, Lisa,

789
00:33:07.260 --> 00:33:10.248
with your, I can't wait to hear about your recipes.

790
00:33:10.248 --> 00:33:13.250
And somebody from Argentina,

791
00:33:13.250 --> 00:33:15.960
loving my mother's cheesecake.

792
00:33:15.960 --> 00:33:16.833
Well, anyway.

793
00:33:18.330 --> 00:33:19.530
<v ->First of all, you're gonna have to share</v>

794
00:33:19.530 --> 00:33:21.090
your mother's cheesecake recipe now

795
00:33:21.090 --> 00:33:23.160
with all of us after this.

796
00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:26.520
In addition to setting us up with some recipes,

797
00:33:26.520 --> 00:33:27.600
Charlotte, some travel tips,

798
00:33:27.600 --> 00:33:29.700
we've got lots of stuff to share for sure.

799
00:33:32.130 --> 00:33:33.170
Lisa, how about you?

800
00:33:33.170 --> 00:33:37.020
<v ->Yeah, I can't wait to hear about Lisa's recipes.</v>

801
00:33:37.020 --> 00:33:39.240
<v ->Lisa, what did you learn about yourself</v>

802
00:33:39.240 --> 00:33:42.300
or what surprised you about yourself in this?

803
00:33:42.300 --> 00:33:45.810
<v ->I think I'm most surprised</v>

804
00:33:45.810 --> 00:33:49.720
about the artistic side that I have

805
00:33:51.027 --> 00:33:52.770
that I didn't realize was there.

806
00:33:52.770 --> 00:33:55.200
I grew up reading books

807
00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:58.230
and I was very much a book and writing

808
00:33:58.230 --> 00:33:59.520
kind of oriented person.

809
00:33:59.520 --> 00:34:02.310
I studied history in college

810
00:34:02.310 --> 00:34:03.660
and then I went to law school.

811
00:34:03.660 --> 00:34:06.420
And so I didn't really do anything necessarily creative.

812
00:34:06.420 --> 00:34:09.090
And I didn't even know how to take a picture

813
00:34:09.090 --> 00:34:10.290
with a camera.

814
00:34:10.290 --> 00:34:12.240
It's funny because my husband always jokes

815
00:34:12.240 --> 00:34:14.310
that before I started food blogging,

816
00:34:14.310 --> 00:34:15.720
I would take terrible pictures of him.

817
00:34:15.720 --> 00:34:17.370
I still, I don't think I can.

818
00:34:17.370 --> 00:34:19.260
I don't think I take great pictures of people.

819
00:34:19.260 --> 00:34:21.150
I can take great shots of food,

820
00:34:21.150 --> 00:34:23.130
but I've come a long way.

821
00:34:23.130 --> 00:34:25.170
That's been very surprising for me

822
00:34:25.170 --> 00:34:30.170
because I didn't really do much social media

823
00:34:30.900 --> 00:34:32.610
before I started food blogging.

824
00:34:32.610 --> 00:34:36.630
I didn't know how to take videos or film videos

825
00:34:36.630 --> 00:34:40.200
other than if maybe here and there, some travel videos.

826
00:34:40.200 --> 00:34:44.280
And now I've learned how to do those things,

827
00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:48.810
which surprises me even as we speak.

828
00:34:48.810 --> 00:34:52.170
Yeah, so I just, I didn't realize I had,

829
00:34:52.170 --> 00:34:54.030
I was always into crafting.

830
00:34:54.030 --> 00:34:55.470
So I guess there was a little bit

831
00:34:55.470 --> 00:34:58.740
of a artistic side lurking underneath,

832
00:34:58.740 --> 00:35:01.080
but that has surprised me the most

833
00:35:01.080 --> 00:35:06.080
that I can plate food relatively well.

834
00:35:08.450 --> 00:35:11.340
And also sort of piggybacking on what Sandra is saying,

835
00:35:11.340 --> 00:35:14.990
that I'm surprised that people from all over the world

836
00:35:14.990 --> 00:35:18.540
have messaged me and cooked one of my dishes,

837
00:35:18.540 --> 00:35:19.620
which I didn't really expect.

838
00:35:19.620 --> 00:35:22.560
Cause I do only maybe anticipate people

839
00:35:22.560 --> 00:35:25.290
in California knowing about me,

840
00:35:25.290 --> 00:35:28.860
but it is the overseas ones are the ones that surprised me

841
00:35:28.860 --> 00:35:31.770
because my father-in-law sometimes will message and say,

842
00:35:31.770 --> 00:35:34.140
oh yeah, so-and-so's friends

843
00:35:34.140 --> 00:35:35.200
said that they follow you on Instagram.

844
00:35:35.200 --> 00:35:37.230
And I have not met these people before.

845
00:35:37.230 --> 00:35:39.540
Oh, and my father-in-law lives in the UK.

846
00:35:39.540 --> 00:35:42.570
So that's always very surprising to me.

847
00:35:42.570 --> 00:35:45.540
<v ->Yeah, like I said, it's a small world.</v>

848
00:35:45.540 --> 00:35:48.210
Online, it's like people from everywhere can try it.

849
00:35:48.210 --> 00:35:49.043
Yeah, that's great.

850
00:35:49.043 --> 00:35:50.280
And looking at your photos,

851
00:35:50.280 --> 00:35:52.470
I'd never guess that you were ever bad at taking photos

852
00:35:52.470 --> 00:35:53.850
cause they always look delicious.

853
00:35:53.850 --> 00:35:55.710
So I know that's not easy,

854
00:35:55.710 --> 00:35:57.900
but it seems like you're a natural at that.

855
00:35:57.900 --> 00:35:58.983
<v ->Oh, they were bad.</v>

856
00:36:00.268 --> 00:36:01.217
We would be traveling and...

857
00:36:02.238 --> 00:36:04.440
Yeah he would say like, I look like Two-Face

858
00:36:04.440 --> 00:36:07.560
cause like one side of his face is in the shadow

859
00:36:07.560 --> 00:36:08.760
and the other side is lit.

860
00:36:08.760 --> 00:36:11.270
So I've come a long way since those days.

861
00:36:11.270 --> 00:36:14.030
<v ->Awesome, that's awesome.</v>

862
00:36:14.030 --> 00:36:15.830
So another question,

863
00:36:15.830 --> 00:36:19.440
we think about what it means to get older.

864
00:36:19.440 --> 00:36:21.090
We're all young, we're getting older.

865
00:36:21.090 --> 00:36:22.860
We think about getting older, no matter how old we are,

866
00:36:22.860 --> 00:36:25.050
there's always getting older than that.

867
00:36:25.050 --> 00:36:29.130
How has your perception of what it means to get older

868
00:36:29.130 --> 00:36:31.080
changed as you've done this?

869
00:36:31.080 --> 00:36:33.540
And Charlotte, let's start with you.

870
00:36:33.540 --> 00:36:37.890
<v ->I suppose it's changed in that</v>

871
00:36:37.890 --> 00:36:42.870
I have become so much more curious

872
00:36:42.870 --> 00:36:47.280
and adapted to so many more things

873
00:36:47.280 --> 00:36:49.330
because of being on social media

874
00:36:49.330 --> 00:36:54.330
that I guess I see aging now as continuing to adapt

875
00:36:55.590 --> 00:36:57.810
and continuing to learn and be curious

876
00:36:57.810 --> 00:37:02.720
and just know that there's a whole big world out there

877
00:37:02.720 --> 00:37:04.650
of things to learn and do.

878
00:37:04.650 --> 00:37:07.380
Now I'm listening about the recipes and thinking,

879
00:37:07.380 --> 00:37:10.980
wow, I need to ramp up my cooking life a little bit here.

880
00:37:10.980 --> 00:37:15.900
And there's just, it's a big, big life that we have.

881
00:37:15.900 --> 00:37:18.450
And as long as we're physical,

882
00:37:18.450 --> 00:37:20.990
whatever we're able to do physically,

883
00:37:20.990 --> 00:37:23.640
it's like, well, let's give it a shot.

884
00:37:23.640 --> 00:37:26.370
Whatever, be it trying new recipes,

885
00:37:26.370 --> 00:37:28.800
taking a trip, learning to dance.

886
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:30.510
I'm thinking too, it's like, wow.

887
00:37:30.510 --> 00:37:33.150
And my followers would love me dancing.

888
00:37:33.150 --> 00:37:34.770
Yeah, let's do this.

889
00:37:34.770 --> 00:37:37.860
So it's just continually being open

890
00:37:37.860 --> 00:37:41.370
to learning new things and trying new things.

891
00:37:41.370 --> 00:37:44.880
<v ->You know, I think that when people follow you to,</v>

892
00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:46.050
you're like giving them permission

893
00:37:46.050 --> 00:37:48.450
to take those things on.

894
00:37:48.450 --> 00:37:51.510
It's like other people like, well, she can do that.

895
00:37:51.510 --> 00:37:52.800
I can try that.

896
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:53.633
She can be brave.

897
00:37:53.633 --> 00:37:54.466
I can be brave.

898
00:37:54.466 --> 00:37:55.310
I think that's interesting.

899
00:37:55.310 --> 00:37:57.600
That's what the influencer part of this is.

900
00:37:57.600 --> 00:38:00.120
It's other people come across your content

901
00:38:00.120 --> 00:38:01.837
and they say, well, why not?

902
00:38:01.837 --> 00:38:02.670
<v ->Why not?</v>

903
00:38:02.670 --> 00:38:04.410
<v ->I don't have to stop doing these things</v>

904
00:38:04.410 --> 00:38:05.760
because I'm getting, I could still grow

905
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:07.680
and learn and do new things.

906
00:38:07.680 --> 00:38:10.650
<v ->Yeah, and I mean, it's even small things</v>

907
00:38:10.650 --> 00:38:12.590
like Sandra was talking about lipstick

908
00:38:12.590 --> 00:38:17.590
and all through the lockdown, I put on makeup every day.

909
00:38:17.700 --> 00:38:20.700
And so I would mention to my followers,

910
00:38:20.700 --> 00:38:22.110
you know, I'd be like, well

911
00:38:22.110 --> 00:38:23.880
there's just no way just cause I'm here cooped up

912
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:26.610
in the house, I'm not gonna have my makeup on.

913
00:38:26.610 --> 00:38:28.080
And so I have people telling me,

914
00:38:28.080 --> 00:38:30.630
yeah, it just sort of makes the day a little brighter

915
00:38:30.630 --> 00:38:33.510
and so, and there's just so many ways

916
00:38:33.510 --> 00:38:35.250
that we are influencing people

917
00:38:35.250 --> 00:38:37.740
that don't even really occur to us.

918
00:38:37.740 --> 00:38:40.260
<v ->Yeah, that's great.</v>

919
00:38:40.260 --> 00:38:41.430
Hey Sandy, how about you?

920
00:38:41.430 --> 00:38:43.170
How has this changed your perception

921
00:38:43.170 --> 00:38:46.470
of what it means to get older?

922
00:38:46.470 --> 00:38:47.733
<v ->I'm old?</v>

923
00:38:49.140 --> 00:38:50.760
No. I'm older?

924
00:38:50.760 --> 00:38:53.130
<v ->No, no, but how has it changed your perception</v>

925
00:38:53.130 --> 00:38:55.113
of what it means when you do get older?

926
00:38:55.980 --> 00:38:57.810
<v ->You know, when I was young,</v>

927
00:38:57.810 --> 00:38:59.890
I would think somebody who was 82

928
00:38:59.890 --> 00:39:01.860
was really old.

929
00:39:01.860 --> 00:39:05.490
Now when I hear people talk about they're 82,

930
00:39:05.490 --> 00:39:07.740
you know, I don't know if they can cross the street.

931
00:39:07.740 --> 00:39:12.093
I think, wait a second, 82, I'm really young.

932
00:39:13.690 --> 00:39:16.490
What is my perception?

933
00:39:16.490 --> 00:39:18.690
I don't have a perception of age.

934
00:39:18.690 --> 00:39:22.800
I've got medical issues, but I kind of put them over there

935
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:25.380
and just kind of go through it.

936
00:39:25.380 --> 00:39:28.470
And the other day when my friend came

937
00:39:28.470 --> 00:39:31.650
from this beauty blogger from England,

938
00:39:31.650 --> 00:39:36.030
she said, oh my goodness, you're my mother's age.

939
00:39:36.030 --> 00:39:39.150
And I think I'm a mother to everybody

940
00:39:39.150 --> 00:39:42.810
because they all, I'm older than any of the,

941
00:39:42.810 --> 00:39:46.350
well, see, I'm 82, you women look really young.

942
00:39:46.350 --> 00:39:49.980
And so I'm this old lady, but I've got all of my friends

943
00:39:49.980 --> 00:39:51.270
or let's say, not my friends,

944
00:39:51.270 --> 00:39:53.910
but all of my fellow bloggers are much younger.

945
00:39:53.910 --> 00:39:56.910
So I'm always surprised that people think I'm old.

946
00:39:56.910 --> 00:39:59.990
I mean, I guess it's the gray hair.

947
00:39:59.990 --> 00:40:01.710
What was I gonna say?

948
00:40:01.710 --> 00:40:05.250
Something about my perception of age.

949
00:40:05.250 --> 00:40:07.800
I'm shocked if I go to a doctor and they say,

950
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.470
well it's kind of age related.

951
00:40:10.470 --> 00:40:13.317
And I think, well, what are they talking about?

952
00:40:13.317 --> 00:40:16.740
I'm not old, I just don't see it.

953
00:40:16.740 --> 00:40:19.170
So yes, it's changed my perception.

954
00:40:19.170 --> 00:40:22.270
I just, the one thing, I'll tell you the one thing I've done

955
00:40:22.270 --> 00:40:27.120
because I broke my left wrist twice doing the same thing,

956
00:40:27.120 --> 00:40:31.650
I slow down now and I think before I jump over bricks

957
00:40:31.650 --> 00:40:34.800
or I jump into on top of things.

958
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.800
So I stopped jumping on things.

959
00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:39.390
<v ->That is awesome.</v>

960
00:40:39.390 --> 00:40:40.980
That is awesome advice.

961
00:40:40.980 --> 00:40:42.330
Think before you jump.

962
00:40:42.330 --> 00:40:43.690
I love it.

963
00:40:43.690 --> 00:40:44.940
I love that.

964
00:40:44.940 --> 00:40:46.980
I love that perspective.

965
00:40:46.980 --> 00:40:48.120
Lisa, how about you?

966
00:40:48.120 --> 00:40:50.280
I mean you see your mom

967
00:40:50.280 --> 00:40:52.260
and you see as she's getting older

968
00:40:52.260 --> 00:40:54.150
and you see as you get older as well with her,

969
00:40:54.150 --> 00:40:56.010
but when you see her,

970
00:40:56.010 --> 00:40:57.360
when you see what you're doing together,

971
00:40:57.360 --> 00:40:58.800
how does it change your perception

972
00:40:58.800 --> 00:41:00.420
of what it means for her to get older

973
00:41:00.420 --> 00:41:03.030
and what it might mean for you as you get older?

974
00:41:03.030 --> 00:41:08.030
<v ->Yeah, I think I love to see my mom being so engaged</v>

975
00:41:08.850 --> 00:41:11.760
in what I do and in life in general

976
00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:13.950
and how she's constantly learning.

977
00:41:13.950 --> 00:41:15.630
I really admire that spirit about her

978
00:41:15.630 --> 00:41:17.730
that she is always curious.

979
00:41:17.730 --> 00:41:19.223
And I wanna be like that when I grow up too.

980
00:41:19.223 --> 00:41:22.180
I mean, I grew up with my grandmother

981
00:41:23.340 --> 00:41:26.910
and she immigrated to America in her late 70s.

982
00:41:26.910 --> 00:41:29.580
And I think immigrating was very hard for her

983
00:41:29.580 --> 00:41:32.430
because she suddenly lived,

984
00:41:32.430 --> 00:41:35.370
because my family lived in a very rural area in China

985
00:41:35.370 --> 00:41:37.830
where everyone is your neighbors are around,

986
00:41:37.830 --> 00:41:41.130
you walk outside, you can see a friend or a family member.

987
00:41:41.130 --> 00:41:43.790
But when she moved to America,

988
00:41:43.790 --> 00:41:46.380
the environment is just so different.

989
00:41:46.380 --> 00:41:48.390
She can't speak to neighbors.

990
00:41:48.390 --> 00:41:52.140
People don't just sit outside the house to hang out,

991
00:41:52.140 --> 00:41:54.150
especially in San Francisco.

992
00:41:54.150 --> 00:41:58.380
And so I think I could sort of see how that affected her.

993
00:41:58.380 --> 00:42:00.720
And then now to see my mom

994
00:42:00.720 --> 00:42:02.040
with the arrival of social media,

995
00:42:02.040 --> 00:42:03.990
how it's easier for her to keep in touch

996
00:42:03.990 --> 00:42:05.390
with friends and family members

997
00:42:05.390 --> 00:42:09.360
and be able to talk to people and learn new things,

998
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:14.360
it's really kept her excited about life.

999
00:42:14.547 --> 00:42:15.810
And I can just see that,

1000
00:42:15.810 --> 00:42:17.670
I can see that my mom's zest for life.

1001
00:42:17.670 --> 00:42:22.050
And I just really appreciate what her

1002
00:42:22.050 --> 00:42:27.050
being on social media and how she's been able to stay active

1003
00:42:28.680 --> 00:42:31.890
even in her late 70s.

1004
00:42:31.890 --> 00:42:34.007
Sorry, I nearly forgot how old my mom was.

1005
00:42:34.007 --> 00:42:36.120
'Cause she always seemed like perpetually

1006
00:42:36.120 --> 00:42:37.920
in her early 70s to me, but yeah.

1007
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:40.083
So as she's gotten older,

1008
00:42:41.580 --> 00:42:43.560
yeah, she's having more health problems,

1009
00:42:43.560 --> 00:42:47.343
but she's still very engaged with everything that we do.

1010
00:42:48.660 --> 00:42:49.593
<v ->That's great.</v>

1011
00:42:50.490 --> 00:42:51.630
That's great.

1012
00:42:51.630 --> 00:42:54.570
So it's funny when we think about getting older,

1013
00:42:54.570 --> 00:42:56.610
we think about retiring.

1014
00:42:56.610 --> 00:42:58.260
There's no, you work your whole life

1015
00:42:58.260 --> 00:43:00.330
and you're excited about getting to retirement.

1016
00:43:00.330 --> 00:43:01.380
There's no playbook.

1017
00:43:01.380 --> 00:43:03.690
Nobody shows up and says, here's how you do it.

1018
00:43:03.690 --> 00:43:08.400
So what advice would you give to people who retire

1019
00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:09.780
or ready for the next stage of life?

1020
00:43:09.780 --> 00:43:11.670
They feel a little stuck.

1021
00:43:11.670 --> 00:43:13.890
You guys all found a way, you found a path.

1022
00:43:13.890 --> 00:43:15.330
What advice do you have for people

1023
00:43:15.330 --> 00:43:17.230
who find themselves stuck

1024
00:43:17.230 --> 00:43:18.960
and figure out what their next phase is

1025
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:22.083
and unsure how to start their next chapter?

1026
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:25.480
Let's start with you, Charlotte.

1027
00:43:26.640 --> 00:43:29.850
I would say that for the most part,

1028
00:43:29.850 --> 00:43:33.630
anybody who is 65 or whatever

1029
00:43:33.630 --> 00:43:35.430
old enough to retire now,

1030
00:43:35.430 --> 00:43:38.220
they're of a generation that saved money,

1031
00:43:38.220 --> 00:43:40.560
lived frugally, worked at jobs

1032
00:43:40.560 --> 00:43:43.500
that they weren't necessarily crazy about after a point,

1033
00:43:43.500 --> 00:43:44.480
but hung in there.

1034
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:49.480
And so my advice would be that you have, in a way,

1035
00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:53.070
almost like paid your dues in life.

1036
00:43:53.070 --> 00:43:55.770
And it is time to do whatever it was

1037
00:43:55.770 --> 00:43:57.240
that you were dreaming about

1038
00:43:57.240 --> 00:43:59.760
when you were so disciplined and saving money,

1039
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:01.050
going to work every day,

1040
00:44:01.050 --> 00:44:04.200
staying at a job for many, many years, many decades.

1041
00:44:04.200 --> 00:44:08.490
And now you owe it to yourself to enjoy life

1042
00:44:08.490 --> 00:44:10.950
to the very, very fullest or more.

1043
00:44:10.950 --> 00:44:13.830
If it involves travel and you decide

1044
00:44:13.830 --> 00:44:16.740
you wanna travel and you wanna stay at a five-star hotel

1045
00:44:16.740 --> 00:44:21.180
and even spend the night in the penthouse suite or whatever,

1046
00:44:21.180 --> 00:44:23.070
do it, you deserve it.

1047
00:44:23.070 --> 00:44:26.310
You've put in a good life, you've followed the rules.

1048
00:44:26.310 --> 00:44:28.650
And I just say, live large,

1049
00:44:28.650 --> 00:44:31.923
do everything you want as much as you want.

1050
00:44:33.210 --> 00:44:34.290
<v ->I love that.</v>

1051
00:44:34.290 --> 00:44:35.123
I love that.

1052
00:44:35.123 --> 00:44:37.470
That's great advice for us at any stage of life,

1053
00:44:37.470 --> 00:44:39.210
but I love that.

1054
00:44:39.210 --> 00:44:40.043
I love it.

1055
00:44:40.043 --> 00:44:40.950
Sandy, how about you?

1056
00:44:40.950 --> 00:44:41.803
How about you?

1057
00:44:41.803 --> 00:44:44.550
<v ->I say right on Charlotte.</v>

1058
00:44:44.550 --> 00:44:46.470
I think, absolutely.

1059
00:44:46.470 --> 00:44:50.280
The thing that has driven me is curiosity.

1060
00:44:50.280 --> 00:44:53.730
And I think that that's what Lisa said about her mother.

1061
00:44:53.730 --> 00:44:55.140
And it's curiosity.

1062
00:44:55.140 --> 00:44:57.390
That's how I got into this.

1063
00:44:57.390 --> 00:45:01.900
It was computers, it was makeup.

1064
00:45:01.900 --> 00:45:05.490
That's what kind of drove me here.

1065
00:45:05.490 --> 00:45:08.250
So I would say what you're curious about,

1066
00:45:08.250 --> 00:45:10.830
go searching, keep curious.

1067
00:45:10.830 --> 00:45:15.400
That keeps you alive because there's so much out there.

1068
00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:17.740
Get on YouTube, go.

1069
00:45:17.740 --> 00:45:20.670
You can find anything on YouTube.

1070
00:45:20.670 --> 00:45:24.120
I found out how to spray the disease

1071
00:45:24.120 --> 00:45:25.980
off my trees on YouTube.

1072
00:45:25.980 --> 00:45:30.120
Yesterday, I found out how to use this sealer that we bought

1073
00:45:30.120 --> 00:45:33.000
that the instructions were impossible,

1074
00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:34.680
but I went on YouTube and sure enough,

1075
00:45:34.680 --> 00:45:36.510
there's somebody telling me how to do it.

1076
00:45:36.510 --> 00:45:37.860
So be curious.

1077
00:45:37.860 --> 00:45:40.590
I'd say that's the most important thing

1078
00:45:40.590 --> 00:45:42.570
and let's see where it drives you.

1079
00:45:42.570 --> 00:45:43.950
Does it drive you to write a book?

1080
00:45:43.950 --> 00:45:45.390
Does it drive you to paint?

1081
00:45:45.390 --> 00:45:46.710
Does it drive you to travel?

1082
00:45:46.710 --> 00:45:48.420
Does it drive you

1083
00:45:48.420 --> 00:45:50.680
get in touch with what's inside of you

1084
00:45:50.680 --> 00:45:55.680
and use that curiosity and go for it.

1085
00:45:56.120 --> 00:45:57.600
<v ->I love that.</v>

1086
00:45:57.600 --> 00:45:58.950
And I'm so with you on YouTube.

1087
00:45:58.950 --> 00:46:01.500
You know, it requires influencers to be out there

1088
00:46:01.500 --> 00:46:02.400
creating that content.

1089
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:05.250
So the rest of us can go and find out how to do things.

1090
00:46:05.250 --> 00:46:08.820
That's like the encyclopedia of life for me is YouTube.

1091
00:46:08.820 --> 00:46:10.620
How do I do things.

1092
00:46:10.620 --> 00:46:12.120
It's all there.

1093
00:46:12.120 --> 00:46:12.953
It is all there.

1094
00:46:12.953 --> 00:46:13.786
You're right.

1095
00:46:13.786 --> 00:46:15.540
Because somebody out there was putting some content up.

1096
00:46:15.540 --> 00:46:16.720
So I love that.

1097
00:46:16.720 --> 00:46:20.053
<v ->You can find out my favorite lipstick for the day.</v>

1098
00:46:22.577 --> 00:46:26.370
<v ->For that day, every day, it's marvelous.</v>

1099
00:46:26.370 --> 00:46:27.390
<v ->Right.</v>

1100
00:46:27.390 --> 00:46:28.410
<v ->Lisa, how about you?</v>

1101
00:46:28.410 --> 00:46:29.913
Like what advice do you have?

1102
00:46:31.100 --> 00:46:32.730
<v ->I guess this question,</v>

1103
00:46:32.730 --> 00:46:35.280
I can only speak for myself personally,

1104
00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:40.280
but well, after I passed the bar in California,

1105
00:46:42.980 --> 00:46:46.160
I had to do some self-reflection

1106
00:46:46.160 --> 00:46:51.160
about whether or not I really enjoyed practicing law.

1107
00:46:52.020 --> 00:46:55.920
And when I started my blog,

1108
00:46:55.920 --> 00:47:00.060
I really was afraid because I felt very embarrassed

1109
00:47:00.060 --> 00:47:05.060
that I didn't have a job coming out of law school.

1110
00:47:05.550 --> 00:47:07.170
And I was still looking for one.

1111
00:47:07.170 --> 00:47:10.740
And I didn't want people to find out

1112
00:47:10.740 --> 00:47:12.360
that I had started a food blog.

1113
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:13.980
Cause I, for some reason in my head,

1114
00:47:13.980 --> 00:47:16.530
I thought that was something that is lesser

1115
00:47:16.530 --> 00:47:17.760
than what a lawyer would do.

1116
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:20.610
That kind of career of creating online content

1117
00:47:20.610 --> 00:47:22.980
is something that is less.

1118
00:47:22.980 --> 00:47:25.440
And my husband actually told me to just start it.

1119
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:30.440
And so I just did because what else really was I doing?

1120
00:47:31.140 --> 00:47:36.030
And I was surprised by how that leap of faith,

1121
00:47:36.030 --> 00:47:37.050
where that has brought me,

1122
00:47:37.050 --> 00:47:39.480
because it really allowed me to discover

1123
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:41.220
what my passion really is.

1124
00:47:41.220 --> 00:47:42.510
And it is in cooking.

1125
00:47:42.510 --> 00:47:45.810
And now that I have sort of looped in my mom

1126
00:47:45.810 --> 00:47:46.643
into all of this,

1127
00:47:46.643 --> 00:47:49.290
it is in finding more about my family recipes,

1128
00:47:49.290 --> 00:47:51.810
my heritage, the foods of my culture.

1129
00:47:51.810 --> 00:47:55.440
And so that has really helped me feel more fulfilled

1130
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:57.780
with what I do day to day

1131
00:47:57.780 --> 00:48:01.050
compared to where I was 10 years ago.

1132
00:48:01.050 --> 00:48:04.680
So I don't know if I have any advice,

1133
00:48:04.680 --> 00:48:07.440
but if you're feeling stuck,

1134
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:11.360
just sort of listen and see and try different things

1135
00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:15.510
to find out where your passion might be.

1136
00:48:15.510 --> 00:48:18.060
And yes, there are so many online tutorials

1137
00:48:18.060 --> 00:48:19.360
about how to start things.

1138
00:48:20.250 --> 00:48:21.270
For food blogging,

1139
00:48:21.270 --> 00:48:23.640
I just Googled how to start a food blog.

1140
00:48:23.640 --> 00:48:25.260
And then at that point in time,

1141
00:48:25.260 --> 00:48:26.093
there are a lot of people

1142
00:48:26.093 --> 00:48:27.570
who had already written blog posts about it.

1143
00:48:27.570 --> 00:48:31.083
And I just followed those tips and launched my website.

1144
00:48:32.500 --> 00:48:33.570
<v ->That's great.</v>

1145
00:48:33.570 --> 00:48:34.950
I love that.

1146
00:48:34.950 --> 00:48:37.740
I love the theme that you all have is the idea of curiosity

1147
00:48:37.740 --> 00:48:39.990
and doing it even if you're afraid.

1148
00:48:39.990 --> 00:48:42.360
I mean, there's not all of life.

1149
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:44.070
Even as you get older and retire,

1150
00:48:44.070 --> 00:48:44.903
that doesn't go away.

1151
00:48:44.903 --> 00:48:46.230
Just do it anyway.

1152
00:48:46.230 --> 00:48:48.030
Be curious, take things on.

1153
00:48:48.030 --> 00:48:48.863
Yeah.

1154
00:48:48.863 --> 00:48:49.960
But we do have some questions

1155
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.410
that have come in for you guys.

1156
00:48:52.410 --> 00:48:54.900
And the first one I love,

1157
00:48:54.900 --> 00:48:56.420
and Charlotte, let's start with you.

1158
00:48:56.420 --> 00:48:58.770
Where and how do you continue

1159
00:48:58.770 --> 00:49:02.120
to draw new inspiration for content?

1160
00:49:02.120 --> 00:49:07.080
<v ->Well, it's really, it's pretty easy because I travel.</v>

1161
00:49:07.080 --> 00:49:09.080
So wherever I'm going next

1162
00:49:09.080 --> 00:49:12.270
just provides the content that I need.

1163
00:49:12.270 --> 00:49:16.653
And when I am home for a long stretch of time,

1164
00:49:18.210 --> 00:49:21.000
it's sort of amazing that things just come to me,

1165
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:24.120
just maybe something that's just going on currently,

1166
00:49:24.120 --> 00:49:28.120
a holiday or some issue that comes up,

1167
00:49:28.120 --> 00:49:32.040
or it might be just sort of reflecting on a previous trip.

1168
00:49:32.040 --> 00:49:35.280
But like now I'm gonna be good for content for a while.

1169
00:49:35.280 --> 00:49:36.980
I'm leaving tomorrow for Fiji

1170
00:49:36.980 --> 00:49:39.930
and I'll be there for about a week

1171
00:49:39.930 --> 00:49:42.120
and then a couple of weeks in South Korea.

1172
00:49:42.120 --> 00:49:44.040
So I'm good.

1173
00:49:44.040 --> 00:49:45.960
I'm pretty good for a while.

1174
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:49.410
With travel, there's always content.

1175
00:49:49.410 --> 00:49:50.550
<v ->Yeah, it's a big world.</v>

1176
00:49:50.550 --> 00:49:52.110
It's a big world.

1177
00:49:52.110 --> 00:49:53.670
There's always something else about Fiji.

1178
00:49:53.670 --> 00:49:54.663
That's amazing.

1179
00:49:56.040 --> 00:49:57.330
Yeah, I'm excited.

1180
00:49:57.330 --> 00:49:58.440
<v ->Lucky you, Charlotte.</v>

1181
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:00.690
<v ->I know, we should all join you, Charlotte.</v>

1182
00:50:00.690 --> 00:50:02.250
We should all join you.

1183
00:50:02.250 --> 00:50:03.083
<v ->Come on.</v>

1184
00:50:05.250 --> 00:50:06.450
<v ->How about you, Sandra?</v>

1185
00:50:07.380 --> 00:50:09.480
How do you come up with new ideas for content?

1186
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:11.580
<v ->There's a state of mind,</v>

1187
00:50:11.580 --> 00:50:14.820
which is of being open to what you see,

1188
00:50:14.820 --> 00:50:16.113
to always being,

1189
00:50:18.420 --> 00:50:20.660
that's how I, as when I was painting,

1190
00:50:20.660 --> 00:50:23.970
I was just always open to what I saw.

1191
00:50:23.970 --> 00:50:25.710
And it's the same way now.

1192
00:50:25.710 --> 00:50:27.240
I'll be walking down the street

1193
00:50:27.240 --> 00:50:30.030
and suddenly I'll see something and think,

1194
00:50:30.030 --> 00:50:33.390
you know, I should do a story about that.

1195
00:50:33.390 --> 00:50:38.070
Or I should, my hair, I should do a story about,

1196
00:50:38.070 --> 00:50:43.070
you know, how I use hair masks in a different way.

1197
00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:48.423
And it's, and what I do is I always write it down.

1198
00:50:50.220 --> 00:50:52.440
All of it because I'll forget.

1199
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:55.290
So I always, I have a whole list of ideas,

1200
00:50:55.290 --> 00:50:58.740
but I'm always open to, gee, I made this recipe.

1201
00:50:58.740 --> 00:51:00.510
I've got to teach people about that.

1202
00:51:00.510 --> 00:51:02.940
Or actually I'm going to make,

1203
00:51:02.940 --> 00:51:03.773
I'm going to make,

1204
00:51:03.773 --> 00:51:06.540
I'm going to try and learn how to make biscuits.

1205
00:51:06.540 --> 00:51:07.740
I've never made them.

1206
00:51:07.740 --> 00:51:09.750
And I thought I'm going to try that.

1207
00:51:09.750 --> 00:51:12.330
So it's always, it's always being open

1208
00:51:12.330 --> 00:51:14.970
because it's hard to always come up with ideas.

1209
00:51:14.970 --> 00:51:18.300
So it's just a state of mind

1210
00:51:18.300 --> 00:51:21.220
of being open and letting things come to you

1211
00:51:21.220 --> 00:51:23.490
and writing them down when they come to you.

1212
00:51:23.490 --> 00:51:25.810
Cause otherwise you'll forget.

1213
00:51:25.810 --> 00:51:27.840
<v ->That's good, capturing it all.</v>

1214
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:30.360
It seems like you and Charlotte have so many ideas

1215
00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:31.193
that you're like, boy,

1216
00:51:31.193 --> 00:51:33.303
I could calendar this out for a long time.

1217
00:51:34.950 --> 00:51:36.060
<v ->Yes.</v>

1218
00:51:36.060 --> 00:51:40.020
<v ->So Lisa, obviously you get inspiration from your own mom</v>

1219
00:51:40.020 --> 00:51:42.840
who's out there Googling stuff you're going to make.

1220
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:45.900
But what other places are you doing?

1221
00:51:45.900 --> 00:51:46.950
What other things are you doing

1222
00:51:46.950 --> 00:51:48.900
to try to come up with new content?

1223
00:51:48.900 --> 00:51:50.910
<v ->Well, there's always a long list</v>

1224
00:51:50.910 --> 00:51:53.340
of classic Chinese recipes

1225
00:51:53.340 --> 00:51:54.930
I'm still trying to learn how to make.

1226
00:51:54.930 --> 00:51:59.087
A lot of dim sum dishes that I've always been curious

1227
00:51:59.087 --> 00:51:59.920
to make.

1228
00:51:59.920 --> 00:52:01.110
So there's that.

1229
00:52:01.110 --> 00:52:05.100
And then when I see something on social media,

1230
00:52:05.100 --> 00:52:07.770
it might trigger me to think of a twist

1231
00:52:07.770 --> 00:52:09.390
on something I've seen,

1232
00:52:09.390 --> 00:52:10.410
or kind of like Sandra,

1233
00:52:10.410 --> 00:52:12.780
when I'm just walking down the street doing something,

1234
00:52:12.780 --> 00:52:14.580
an idea just suddenly pops into my mind

1235
00:52:14.580 --> 00:52:16.020
and then I have to think about it.

1236
00:52:16.020 --> 00:52:17.820
But, and I do try to write it down.

1237
00:52:17.820 --> 00:52:20.370
The problem is I write it down in five different notebooks

1238
00:52:20.370 --> 00:52:22.200
'cause I'm a big notebook person.

1239
00:52:22.200 --> 00:52:25.410
And so having to then find the notebook

1240
00:52:25.410 --> 00:52:26.550
where I came up with the ideas

1241
00:52:26.550 --> 00:52:27.480
can be a little bit of a struggle.

1242
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:30.930
So now I'm trying to stay more organized

1243
00:52:30.930 --> 00:52:35.130
and at least make sure it sits in one place digitally

1244
00:52:35.130 --> 00:52:37.760
so that I kind of make sure I have all those ideas

1245
00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:40.050
in a master list so I can keep track of it.

1246
00:52:40.050 --> 00:52:43.680
But oftentimes it is really just something where I go,

1247
00:52:43.680 --> 00:52:44.550
oh, I made this dish.

1248
00:52:44.550 --> 00:52:48.030
I wonder if waffling, cooking things in a waffle iron

1249
00:52:48.030 --> 00:52:49.200
or browning them in a waffle iron

1250
00:52:49.200 --> 00:52:52.530
is a thing that I'm curious about right now

1251
00:52:52.530 --> 00:52:56.700
cause it seems to be interesting for the audience.

1252
00:52:56.700 --> 00:52:58.320
So I'm just taking a lot of dishes

1253
00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:00.480
and just sticking in the waffle iron and see if it works.

1254
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:03.210
So it's stuff like that.

1255
00:53:03.210 --> 00:53:04.720
There's always some sort of food trend

1256
00:53:04.720 --> 00:53:08.250
that I will see if it's interesting.

1257
00:53:08.250 --> 00:53:10.530
Sometimes the food trends are a little bit,

1258
00:53:10.530 --> 00:53:12.810
I don't know if that's really successful all the time,

1259
00:53:12.810 --> 00:53:14.670
but there are some that interest me

1260
00:53:14.670 --> 00:53:16.460
and then I'll just try it and see if I could do

1261
00:53:16.460 --> 00:53:17.490
my own twist.

1262
00:53:17.490 --> 00:53:20.130
But I also have a huge cookbook collection

1263
00:53:20.130 --> 00:53:21.660
that I'm constantly expanding.

1264
00:53:21.660 --> 00:53:23.640
And I like cooking other people's food,

1265
00:53:23.640 --> 00:53:25.020
even if it's not Asian food,

1266
00:53:25.020 --> 00:53:28.470
because it just allows me to learn a new technique,

1267
00:53:28.470 --> 00:53:31.830
a new flavor profile that then I can down the line

1268
00:53:31.830 --> 00:53:33.693
use for future recipes.

1269
00:53:34.527 --> 00:53:35.520
<v ->Yeah.</v>

1270
00:53:35.520 --> 00:53:36.720
The trend is interesting

1271
00:53:36.720 --> 00:53:38.070
'cause there's always a new trend.

1272
00:53:38.070 --> 00:53:40.020
Waffling, I didn't know that one.

1273
00:53:40.020 --> 00:53:42.630
I love when people just stick stuff in a waffle iron

1274
00:53:42.630 --> 00:53:45.030
and see, curiosity, it didn't work.

1275
00:53:45.030 --> 00:53:46.140
Right, what can I do?

1276
00:53:46.140 --> 00:53:47.910
You know, that's great.

1277
00:53:47.910 --> 00:53:49.180
Okay, we have another question.

1278
00:53:49.180 --> 00:53:53.250
<v ->It's like a fancy panini press.</v>

1279
00:53:53.250 --> 00:53:54.900
It is, right?

1280
00:53:54.900 --> 00:53:57.090
It's even easier, I think.

1281
00:53:57.090 --> 00:53:58.950
Okay, here's another question coming in.

1282
00:53:58.950 --> 00:54:02.070
What did you need to do to get started

1283
00:54:02.070 --> 00:54:04.590
and what things did you have to figure out along the way?

1284
00:54:04.590 --> 00:54:06.360
And I know you guys talked a little bit about this,

1285
00:54:06.360 --> 00:54:07.193
but Charlotte, how about you?

1286
00:54:07.193 --> 00:54:08.970
What did you have to absolutely know to get started

1287
00:54:08.970 --> 00:54:10.580
or do to get started?

1288
00:54:10.580 --> 00:54:14.640
<v ->Well, like I said, my daughter came up with the idea,</v>

1289
00:54:14.640 --> 00:54:16.120
showed me how to use Instagram.

1290
00:54:16.120 --> 00:54:20.490
And I really had to sort of learn the rules of Instagram

1291
00:54:20.490 --> 00:54:22.830
because when she first opened the account,

1292
00:54:22.830 --> 00:54:26.310
I had just returned from a Scandinavian trip.

1293
00:54:26.310 --> 00:54:30.160
And so I had like 95 pictures of Oslo alone.

1294
00:54:30.160 --> 00:54:33.000
And so I told her, it's like, oh, great.

1295
00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:35.790
Well, I'm gonna put the Oslo pictures on.

1296
00:54:35.790 --> 00:54:40.790
And she had to teach me like, no, you do one picture a day,

1297
00:54:41.070 --> 00:54:43.050
maybe not even every day,

1298
00:54:43.050 --> 00:54:47.910
but you don't overwhelm people with all these pictures.

1299
00:54:47.910 --> 00:54:50.490
And so then in following other people,

1300
00:54:50.490 --> 00:54:53.250
I sort of learned some of the rules.

1301
00:54:53.250 --> 00:54:57.990
And even now there's just things that are sort of okay to do

1302
00:54:57.990 --> 00:54:59.820
and other things that just aren't,

1303
00:54:59.820 --> 00:55:01.860
that are just really gonna flop.

1304
00:55:01.860 --> 00:55:05.640
And so just learning the rules of social media

1305
00:55:05.640 --> 00:55:09.480
and just the vibe that's there,

1306
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:12.300
that's not just like what we're experiencing

1307
00:55:12.300 --> 00:55:15.633
just in maybe sharing pictures or something with a friend.

1308
00:55:18.090 --> 00:55:20.580
And even the vocabulary,

1309
00:55:20.580 --> 00:55:25.580
because I feel so current on vocabulary

1310
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:27.900
and then I'll think I'm really doing great.

1311
00:55:27.900 --> 00:55:30.000
And so I had this one picture recently

1312
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:30.833
and something I was wearing

1313
00:55:30.833 --> 00:55:34.500
and I was saying something about my look, L-E-W-K,

1314
00:55:34.500 --> 00:55:36.990
which has been a word on social media.

1315
00:55:36.990 --> 00:55:40.410
And my daughter like texts me and said,

1316
00:55:40.410 --> 00:55:42.270
you can't say that, it sounds crazy.

1317
00:55:42.270 --> 00:55:44.370
That word's out, they don't use it anymore.

1318
00:55:44.370 --> 00:55:45.333
No.

1319
00:55:45.333 --> 00:55:47.220
<v ->Oh my God, that is amazing.</v>

1320
00:55:47.220 --> 00:55:49.800
Mom, don't use it, it's not popular anymore.

1321
00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:50.900
It's not trending.

1322
00:55:50.900 --> 00:55:53.040
And I was like, when did lewk leave?

1323
00:55:53.040 --> 00:55:54.810
She's like, no, no one has a lewk.

1324
00:55:54.810 --> 00:55:56.490
And the other day,

1325
00:55:56.490 --> 00:55:59.547
I saw one of the really big time Instagrammers

1326
00:55:59.547 --> 00:56:01.047
and she had something about her lewk.

1327
00:56:01.047 --> 00:56:03.780
And I was like, I screenshot and I was like,

1328
00:56:03.780 --> 00:56:05.610
hey Liz, lewk is still here.

1329
00:56:06.570 --> 00:56:08.790
<v ->Well, listen, you're the influencer, not her.</v>

1330
00:56:08.790 --> 00:56:10.490
Tell her she could learn from you.

1331
00:56:12.380 --> 00:56:13.710
Oh my goodness.

1332
00:56:13.710 --> 00:56:14.610
Sandra, how about you?

1333
00:56:14.610 --> 00:56:15.443
What do you need to know to get started?

1334
00:56:15.443 --> 00:56:17.500
What have you learned along the way?

1335
00:56:17.500 --> 00:56:19.410
<v ->To just do it.</v>

1336
00:56:19.410 --> 00:56:21.930
I was thinking, oh, I need to get,

1337
00:56:21.930 --> 00:56:23.430
which camera should I get?

1338
00:56:23.430 --> 00:56:25.470
What lighting should I get?

1339
00:56:25.470 --> 00:56:26.700
What this should I get?

1340
00:56:26.700 --> 00:56:27.960
How do I do it?

1341
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:31.890
And I watched another, I guess on YouTube,

1342
00:56:31.890 --> 00:56:33.570
and they said, just do it.

1343
00:56:33.570 --> 00:56:34.890
Go with whatever you've got.

1344
00:56:34.890 --> 00:56:36.240
It doesn't matter.

1345
00:56:36.240 --> 00:56:37.140
Just do it.

1346
00:56:37.140 --> 00:56:39.060
So I use, and I still do,

1347
00:56:39.060 --> 00:56:43.730
I use my phone and Lisa in notes...

1348
00:56:54.410 --> 00:56:56.770
have your phone with you.

1349
00:56:56.770 --> 00:56:58.320
Do I sound like a mother?

1350
00:56:58.320 --> 00:56:59.700
I think I sound like a mother.

1351
00:56:59.700 --> 00:57:02.250
Anyway, the thing was to just do it.

1352
00:57:02.250 --> 00:57:06.540
I had, I'd won a little tripod.

1353
00:57:06.540 --> 00:57:08.400
So I had this funny tripod.

1354
00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:10.200
I've got a lot of lights over here

1355
00:57:10.200 --> 00:57:12.360
and eventually I got bigger lights.

1356
00:57:12.360 --> 00:57:16.170
I still use my phone and I make mistakes

1357
00:57:16.170 --> 00:57:19.290
and nobody seems to care.

1358
00:57:19.290 --> 00:57:22.910
It's amazing how you can look terrible.

1359
00:57:22.910 --> 00:57:24.810
I go on without makeup.

1360
00:57:24.810 --> 00:57:26.370
I've gone on from hospitals

1361
00:57:26.370 --> 00:57:29.340
and my girlfriends are aghast,

1362
00:57:29.340 --> 00:57:32.170
but it doesn't matter.

1363
00:57:32.170 --> 00:57:35.490
It just doesn't matter in the scheme of things.

1364
00:57:35.490 --> 00:57:36.323
Do it.

1365
00:57:36.323 --> 00:57:37.156
You've got an idea.

1366
00:57:37.156 --> 00:57:38.310
You want to write a book?

1367
00:57:38.310 --> 00:57:39.143
Do it.

1368
00:57:39.143 --> 00:57:41.820
You've got an idea of you want to paint.

1369
00:57:41.820 --> 00:57:45.030
I mean, my eldest sister is 96 years old.

1370
00:57:45.030 --> 00:57:47.430
She's done some fabulous paintings.

1371
00:57:47.430 --> 00:57:50.670
She also lives in a assisted living.

1372
00:57:50.670 --> 00:57:52.800
She's done some fabulous work.

1373
00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:53.740
So just do it, whatever it is.

1374
00:57:53.740 --> 00:57:55.030
<v ->Go do it.</v>

1375
00:57:55.030 --> 00:57:56.250
Just jump in.

1376
00:57:56.250 --> 00:57:57.570
The water's warm.

1377
00:57:57.570 --> 00:57:59.100
I love it.

1378
00:57:59.100 --> 00:58:01.500
Lisa, let's end with you.

1379
00:58:01.500 --> 00:58:02.333
What do you think?

1380
00:58:02.333 --> 00:58:04.560
What did you have to know or do to get started?

1381
00:58:04.560 --> 00:58:05.820
What'd you have to learn along the way?

1382
00:58:05.820 --> 00:58:08.220
<v ->Well, when I started blogging 10 years ago,</v>

1383
00:58:08.220 --> 00:58:11.010
it was really all very website focused.

1384
00:58:11.010 --> 00:58:15.660
So I had to learn how to buy a URL, start a website,

1385
00:58:15.660 --> 00:58:18.060
and I have no programming,

1386
00:58:18.060 --> 00:58:20.460
any of that kind of technical know-how.

1387
00:58:20.460 --> 00:58:21.293
I didn't know.

1388
00:58:21.293 --> 00:58:22.126
So I had to learn how to do that

1389
00:58:22.126 --> 00:58:25.920
and then learn how to take appetizing photos of food.

1390
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:29.190
So I did get a camera, a DSLR,

1391
00:58:29.190 --> 00:58:32.160
and it just had to play around and learn.

1392
00:58:32.160 --> 00:58:34.230
I couldn't afford lighting.

1393
00:58:34.230 --> 00:58:35.990
So I just learned how to take pictures

1394
00:58:35.990 --> 00:58:37.250
right next to the window

1395
00:58:37.250 --> 00:58:39.630
in the first apartment that my husband and I lived.

1396
00:58:39.630 --> 00:58:41.220
It was a tiny one bedroom,

1397
00:58:41.220 --> 00:58:42.630
and I just took over the window

1398
00:58:42.630 --> 00:58:43.950
that was right next to the living room.

1399
00:58:43.950 --> 00:58:46.370
I just took a bunch of pictures there.

1400
00:58:46.370 --> 00:58:47.880
So that's what I had to learn.

1401
00:58:47.880 --> 00:58:51.660
But now that it's more social media

1402
00:58:51.660 --> 00:58:56.660
is more the primary mode of sharing online content,

1403
00:58:56.700 --> 00:59:01.260
I have to learn to sort of let go of being a perfectionist

1404
00:59:01.260 --> 00:59:04.020
because I am, unfortunately,

1405
00:59:04.020 --> 00:59:08.790
like that I am very meticulous about how my food appears.

1406
00:59:08.790 --> 00:59:10.110
So when I started food blogging,

1407
00:59:10.110 --> 00:59:12.180
because you needed to come up with an appetizing photo,

1408
00:59:12.180 --> 00:59:14.220
it did need to look almost perfect.

1409
00:59:14.220 --> 00:59:17.670
But now when it's more social media focused,

1410
00:59:17.670 --> 00:59:19.620
people are expecting things to not look perfect.

1411
00:59:19.620 --> 00:59:21.450
They still want things to look delicious,

1412
00:59:21.450 --> 00:59:23.790
but it's okay to not be perfect.

1413
00:59:23.790 --> 00:59:28.740
And so I've had to let go of not being as perfect,

1414
00:59:28.740 --> 00:59:29.830
even though I still try to.

1415
00:59:29.830 --> 00:59:33.600
I do five shots of stuff all the time, and it's crazy.

1416
00:59:33.600 --> 00:59:36.450
And it drives me crazy because I edit my own content.

1417
00:59:36.450 --> 00:59:41.340
I chide myself for filming so much

1418
00:59:41.340 --> 00:59:43.230
when I don't need all that extra footage,

1419
00:59:43.230 --> 00:59:46.320
but I am starting to gradually learn

1420
00:59:46.320 --> 00:59:49.020
to just let go and just, like Sandra said, just do it.

1421
00:59:50.010 --> 00:59:50.940
Get out there.

1422
00:59:50.940 --> 00:59:52.650
<v ->That's marvelous advice.</v>

1423
00:59:52.650 --> 00:59:54.240
You guys, this hour has flown by.

1424
00:59:54.240 --> 00:59:55.710
Thank you so much.

1425
00:59:55.710 --> 00:59:57.870
Thank you to our audience for being here today.

1426
00:59:57.870 --> 00:59:59.640
And thank you, Charlotte, Sandy, Lisa,

1427
00:59:59.640 --> 01:00:02.220
for sharing your passion projects with us.

1428
01:00:02.220 --> 01:00:03.390
It's been such a fun hour.

1429
01:00:03.390 --> 01:00:04.890
I appreciate it so much.

1430
01:00:04.890 --> 01:00:06.330
Just a reminder to our audience,

1431
01:00:06.330 --> 01:00:07.290
you're gonna be getting an email

1432
01:00:07.290 --> 01:00:08.490
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1433
01:00:08.490 --> 01:00:09.810
so you can refer back to it,

1434
01:00:09.810 --> 01:00:11.270
share it with your family and friends.

1435
01:00:11.270 --> 01:00:14.640
And we'd like to invite you back here on July 21st

1436
01:00:14.640 --> 01:00:15.780
for our next webinar

1437
01:00:15.780 --> 01:00:18.150
with celebrity chef Curtis Stone.

1438
01:00:18.150 --> 01:00:23.010
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1439
01:00:23.010 --> 01:00:25.950
And each one of our webinars features a different subject.

1440
01:00:25.950 --> 01:00:27.300
You can watch all of them

1441
01:00:27.300 --> 01:00:29.760
on our YouTube channel at any time.

1442
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:31.920
So thank you again for joining us today.

1443
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:33.090
And until next time,

1444
01:00:33.090 --> 01:00:35.760
we hope you stay safe, happy, and well.

1445
01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:36.593
Thank you.

1446
01:00:37.744 --> 01:00:40.411
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